RationalWiki:Chicken coop/Archive55

Pbfreespace3 (yet again)

“”I hereby request that I be taken out of the vandal bin. I've been in it for a month, and you haven't seen any bad behavior from me during that time. Quite frankly, I think I was put there in a bit of a fevered time. You know how things can sometimes get in the chicken coop. I think it will do more good than harm for me to be taken out, so I ask that you have mercy.

—PBfreespace3

Remember when Pbfreespace3 asked to be unbinned because he was being good? Well he's being annoying again by bringing past drama to the mod election's campaign page. What should be done with Pbfreespace3?—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3  (talk • stalk) 04:00, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

It is inappropriate to remember past disputes that moderator candidates were involved in, how? The drama he brought there, appropriate or not, is dwarfed by exactly this. - Smerdis of Tlön, ^{LOAD "*", 8, 1.} 05:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Hm, that's a good point. I suppose you're right. Though, I do believe that PBfreespace3 could at least act more maturely because he is showing signs of his previous self. While I do agree that you are right that the content that he is presenting is acceptable in the context, I argue that the tone that he presents in not appropriate. Perhaps considering PBfreespace3's future should be considered when he presents an extending period of undignified tone.—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3  (talk • stalk) 06:36, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I wish it to be known to all that I do not believe a person's 'tone' should determine one's 'future' on this website. Instead, I advance that the validity of one's arguments and statements should be the primary determining factor as to whether or not a user is punished by the community. PBFЯЗЭSPДCЗ (talk) 06:49, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

*user hat* He's being polite, if annoying. Leave him be, I say. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 06:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Though let's be honest, some users on the site could be less aggressive and calm down because some talkpage content that I see I find painful to read.—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3  (talk • stalk) 07:04, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

What the coop is for

"The chicken coop is for the avoidance, containment and resolution of cases of Headless Chicken Mode (HCM)."

We're literally nowhere near HCM. Archive this discussion. Thanks. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 10:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Archiving.-(Ir)RationalWikian (talk) 18:32, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Levi Ackerman

Levi Ackerman has fully engaged headless chicken mode. But first I do realize that I might have overreacted and let emotion overcome me on a couple of occasions. I am willing to point them out: Edit-protected Levi Ackerman's talkpage and 10 minute ban. If you want to argue an abuse of power, this is like going 5 miles over the speed limit; however, I acknowledge a fault on my side, thus I am creating a coop case. So, I request you accept my cheap words of apology

In any case, here's exmaples of headless chicken mode by Levi Ackerman.

• Editing warring on numerous occasions:
  • Blogosphere
  • What is going on in the world
  • Saloon Bar
• Concern trolling
  • To weaseloid
  • About an article Not Lev, see below. ScepticWombat (talk) 14:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
  • To FCP
  • Main_Page
  • Saloon bar #1
  • Saloon bar #2

Some dirt:

• Previous bans:
  • Sysop revoked
  • Previously banned for edit warring

—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3  (talk • stalk) 08:14, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Uhmm, the guy concern trolling about deepity definitely isn't Levi.--JorisEnter (talk) 10:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Joris is definitely correct about the deepity AFD not being Levi (that would be Rational1 who may be annoying but not coop-worthy), so I've struck that entry from the list. Personally, I think Levi losing his mop is enough. That way he can be either binned or short-term blocked if he goes overboard later on. I'm not sure if Levi is deliberately baiting other editors or just have an obnoxiously aggressive way of responding when challenged. Anyway, I don't think he has been misbehaving that badly, compared to some of the other coop cases. So, no mop, case closed, as far as I'm concerned. ScepticWombat (talk) 14:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Now I see the violence inherrent in the system

I notice that Reverend Black Percy is blocking people for disagreeing with him about how articles should look - I reference [1], and [2]. Is this how we do things around here now? I was under the impression that people don't get blocked for non-vandalism, as enshrined in RationalWiki:Blocking_policy, which states "Blocking should only be used if somebody is maliciously editing a page or pages, as explained below." Arguing that ZooGuard, first edit 12 April 2010 is trying to make the wiki worse seems a stretch. Let's not do things like this. Hipocrite (talk) 16:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Eeeh, I don't think this is a coopable offense. Wheel-wars have a long tradition on RW. Now, if RBP had changed my user rights to make the block stick, it would have been an entirely different matter.

As for the incident in question, for the record: I didn't blank the page - I just removed the bloated list of examples, leaving the rest of the article intact. Both Stopped clock and Inverse stopped clock has had problems with their example lists for a very long time.--ZooGuard (talk) 16:28, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

I reference "Undoing moderator blocks is a worse idea," which implies that undoing it is rights-strippable. Hipocrite (talk) 16:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Next time, start with a polite "Hey, that's not cool." Then, when that doesn't work, coop away over ambiguously threatening statements. ikanreed ^{You probably didn't deserve that} 16:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Fine. Hipocrite (talk) 16:35, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Koidevelopment

I think Koi is too heavy handed with blocks, so we need to block him. I'm being serious, just look at some of the blocks he's made. HCM Time (talk) 02:26, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok bud. Koi "dammit Koi stop making such long sigs!" development 02:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Provide evidence. You're the one suggesting he be blocked, we don't have to dig through his block log. RoninMacbeth (talk) 23:42, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

RW doesn't have an "assume good faith" policy. That said: Assume good faith. Proving abuse is hard -- don't hate right out the gate. That said: Koi's blocks on Special:BlockList are hardly insane. Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 06:53, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Problem with vandal

This discussion was moved here from RationalWiki:Technical support.

Tea Sagan has threatened on a other user's talk page to bring people on this site to vandalize the Jimmy Dore page (to make it harder to remove his bad edits, a guy did the same thing on Dore's Wikipedia page). It would help if you would just block him since all of his edits have been him removing sourced information that he disagrees with. He's been persistently vandalizing the Jimmy Dore page to the point where it keeps getting locked and he shows no signs of stopping. Jaydogg1994 (talk) 07:40, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

If he does, then.we'll block him. But I'm not sure this is really Coop-worthy. RoninMacbeth (talk) 14:47, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Agree. This is not coop-worthy unless and until there is a potentially actionable offense. Making threats against a page on Jimmy Dore is not actionable. If there is vandalism, we take the usual steps: blocking, vandal bin. If there's an unresolved editor conflict, then perhaps the coop. Bongolian (talk) 02:11, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

It's not really about him making threats as much as it's about the fact that all of his edits have been vandalism and blanking, He hasn't added anything useful to the site and has insulted other editors. Jaydogg1994 (talk) 08:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Tea Sagan's edits are generally not constructive. But this does not rise to a coop issue. Blocking and/or vandal bin should be used if the person continues in this manner. Bongolian (talk) 17:45, 27 September 2017 (UTC)